It was the 1983 Championship basketball year, so you can imagine that, having a basketball team that was having ups and downs. You think of players like Dereck Whittenburg, Lorenzo Charles, Thurl Bailey. You know, you had classes with those players and you saw them in the classroom, but then you'd go to the game and you’d really cheer for them. So, when you think about the 1983 Championship, it was almost like the team of destiny. Because they would be behind, and then they would come and win this game. And everybody was kind of saying the same thing, “We’re gonna win this, we’re gonna win this.” It was during that moment that, you know, I can say that is probably a moment in time that you just can't relive. I mean, some of those days I sit back and think about it. Back then, they would go to the Brickyard to have this bonfire where they brought furniture and [had a] huge fire and everything. And you’d go to Hillsborough Street and it would be bonfires on Hillsborough Street. And all of this was every time there was a big game, you know, we could have that. Those games were memorable. I’m a collector of newspapers and I still have all the newspapers from those games. So that was my memory of NC State, just a time of people coming together and cheering for the university. They referred to them as the “Cardiac Pack” because they were always winning in the last couple of minutes of a game.